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				Originally posted by h2oot  
Good answer, Kelvar.  
 
Nothing would turn me off more than a guy who  gives an "ultimatum"  or tries to make you feel guilty, etc.  If a guy/girl doesn't care enough to go at whatever pace is comfortable for BOTH of them, then bye-bye dude. 
			
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 Hey, to play devil's advocate for a second -- don't women tend to do the same thing with marriage -- by giving an ultimatum or using guilt to try to get a guy to propose?  Just a thought...I think we *all* play games in relationships, whether we are male or female.