[PeppyGPhiB]

Wow, I don't know where to start, "coug4lfe." I'm assuming you're talking to me, although my screenname is not "GammaPhiBeta."

First of all, I'm hardly ever on this board compared to many posters here. I come on for maybe a half-hour a day, if that. Perhaps you're confusing me with one of my many sisters on this board.

Second, you should work on your reading comprehension. I wrote that my brother said the fraternity guys at WSU were losers, not that I thought they were. In fact, I even said I didn't know any fraternity guys from WSU. But that doesn't mean I don't hear stories, and if all the stories I hear both by word-of-mouth and the news media are wrong, well, WSU's fraternities had better do a better job at PR. I never claimed to know a bunch of crap about the WSU fraternities, only said that I heard things...and honey, as we in the PR world say, "Word of mouth is the best medium of all."

Third, my brother transfered in to WSU as a junior after spending two years at a private school in Calif., where he rushed but decided not to accept any bids. The two of us are native Washingtonians with family that ALL went to either UW or WSU, and our high school is one of the biggest "feeders" of both greek systems. We have other greeks in our family and have good knowledge of the greek system, myself being a very active alumna of my own organization.

I'll close by saying that when I first read your posts, I thought you were a 20-year-old fraternity guy. I was stunned to see that you're a woman, and then also a parent of a college aged son. You might want to turn your juvenile "neeener neeener" rants toward the WSU administration or the two fraternities that got their chapters in this mess. I'm sure your experience as a parent has taught you that young people sometimes lie to cover the truth and that rarely are altercations one-sided.