I would just like to first state that I'm playing devil's advocate alot here (probably should have said that earlier). Would I like to see a 50/50 integration or even 30/70 sure thatd be cool. But as I said it probably wont happen in my lifetime, but i think it still will someday. In some cases it may be good to stay in some way segregated to preserve traditons and yada yada. Examples keep mens clubs mens like Elk Lodges. Sometimes things just have to be that way.

In any case SAEactive, I completely agree with your post

Endroad, I completely understood your post, but we just trying to give a different view and twist on it. Didnt mean to come off as being pissed at your post if it sounded that way.
Do I think my founders considered minorties such as myself in it? That no one can asnwer or knows except for them. It was back in 1904. Did NPHC founders consider that whites may one day join their orgs.? That we cant answer either really. the answer to both is probably not. But im not looking for what my founders where consdiering then Im looking at what my org considers now and all its accomplishments and progress that it has made. Like I said that was the past and its nice to hear it and learn about and from it, but im not gonna live it. For all I know my founders could have been 11 in the closet lesbian women having orgies. JUST KIDDING about that AGD's. See I can joke about them cuz my sisters and I know how I truely feel about my org.

Its just my guess, but probably for every NPC?NIC person who says "Yeah, I use to be a/or in XYZ", there are probably 8 NPC/NIC active or dedicated alums walking around sporting letters saying " I belong to XYZ"