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Originally posted by Lone Dog
...don't lie about your process...that's one sure way to be thought of as suspect, amongst other things. Bruhs like to call it cat....
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I am really feeling you, Frat! There are so many people who let their insecurity get the best of them and, as a result, feel the need to pretend to have undergone a difficult pledgeship. The outcome of this perpetration is ALWAYS negative for the pretenders. Fact is, if you didn't pledge, there's NO WAY you can pretend to have done so! What would you even know to pretend about? I say be true to yourself and prove yourself through the fruits of your labor as a member of the org.
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Originally posted by Lone Dog I was pledged by people who had wives, kids, bills, and jobs to be concerned about... HOWEVER, it wasn't easy....
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Bruh, let me tell 'ya--from what I know, pledging Omega grad ain't even close to a cake-walk! Contrary to the popular notion--that it's easy to go grad--it's quite often those older (ultra-old-skool) Sorors/Frat who bring the loudest thunder! TRUST! They are the ones who pledged when pledging was a year-long, above ground, legal process! While they understand the rationale behind MIP, most are still advocates of traditional pledging and they know exactly what strategies to use to play and win the game, thus providing in-coming members with a process with which they will be PROUD and TIGHT and TRUE.
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Originally posted by Lone Dog And real members of your organization will teach you all you need to know to be a contributing element and build bridges of your own. BUT, it won't be easy.... and it ain't supposed to be. Anything worth having is worth some inconvenience and work. And if you don't agree.... don't come to Omega,
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As for members teaching you what you need to know... well, unfortunately, there are some neos who don't seem to wanna to learn! I have pulled aside some MIP neos who told me straight up, "I got my letters now, so I don't care." I knew a "duly initiated member of DST" who didn't even know who I was talking about when I said Frank Coleman.

When I tried to check her, she just said "Whatever!"

and walked away. I know greeks who are clueless as to what Invictus is and who have to desire to learn about it. What do we do about these folks?
You've touched on a major problem. There are SO FEW prospects who value the HARD way and SO MANY who want letters handed to them on a Gerber baby platter! That's where the REAL separation is! It's not about old skool vs. MIP, because we all know that s**t still goes on. The thing is, we're getting more and more folks who don't want to earn and work for their membership! What happens when you have a line of 10 and 3 are committed to EARNING their letters, but the other 7 are willing to scream "I was hazed" if a member so much as looks at 'em in an intimidating manner? I'll tell ya what happens-- you end up with a split line! That's not what brotherhood/sisterhood is aboue, which is why many orgs have so much drama to contend with. I must say that Omega is perhaps THE BEST example of family-hood in the Divine Nine, because, for the most part, fellas don't even step to the Bruhs without the expectation that Blood, Sweat, and Tears are required! The few who walk in expecting some Camp Snoopy activities usually just drop out and keep their mouths shut. Yes, there are exceptions--every org has someone who couldn't cut it, and instead of bowing out gracefully (or like a man), they run and tell and everything falls apart for everyone. Why ruin someone else's chances just because YOU can't stand the heat? Why get a chapter suspended just because YOU can't be apart of it? Personally, I have more respect for people who quit, but stay silent than I do for the quitters who squeal.
It's all just so crazy!
And I'm Out!