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yes- the point I was trying to make is that we don't know as the title was vague. Also, when one of the mom's added her daughter, it wasn't sad at the time (wasn't as positive as Kate's) but she hadn't been released yet--- this has been an interesting thread- and I do believe moms need a place to vent when things aren't going right, just like pnms need a place to ask questions before recruitment, and parents/sisters/friends need a place to share-- I just think we can all be a little more empathetic when we post our disagreements-- (side bar: unfortunately, the weather has just turned sunny 6:00 skies to stormy 9:00-like skies, and I won't be able to see the rest until later)--
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