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So you can't give any real-life examples and all you can do is complain about the way things are?

Good chapters aren't shut down for no reason. 'Bad' (or shall I say troubled?) chapters are given chance after chance and they basically shut themselves down. IE, look at Lambda...I'd rather see chapters shut down, then have someone die and their lawyers take our GF to court and put all of us out of business due to lawsuits.

Re-colonized chapter (or colonies) come on campus, recruit and publicly tell people what they're about, how their house will be, how they're motivated to succeed and not the typical 'animal house'. When members choose to join that said chapter KNOWINGLY when it's substance free, and then complain about it (see some general chit chat within the Beta forum) then they're fucking idiots. Those are the guys who should have kept walking to the next frat house....

Again, the guys who don't like it and hate Beta so much, should just quit. Nobody's going to listen to them anyway.