[matthewg]

Kilarny I agree with all of your points - I think it should be obvious that I am not against self-defense and so on. I was just trying to play the advocatus diaboli, the lawyer of the devil and make people think of the other side.

Thanks for the clarification

Language can be a problem if one doesn't talk but just writes.
It is also kind of hard to address two people in one post....

I think, we both have made our points and all in all, I think we pretty much agree on things.

Peace!