Bug211, what GLO are you a member of? We do candle passings too, which we call secret ceremonies. I totally forgot about it until I read your post. Our nationals also do not let men wear our letters, unless the name is spelled out, not even our MOTY's. We used to let our MOTY's but then someone who was visiting from Nationals said that wasn't allowed anymore. I was just curious because your group sounded similar to mine!