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Originally posted by damasa
First, I agree with James on many levels, too many to name, anyway.
About this quote. What is the main point? You say that americans are trying to push their way of life onto other people? That's what it seems like. I didn't realize that us helping to topple the Taliban and reform the gov't of afghanistan was a push off of our lifestlye. Further, the same things that we do to try to help, such as humanitarian aid missions, peace keeping missions, etc. How does that help america to push off their way of life?
Double standards, what double standards?
"he" Everybody should be granted to live the life "he" wants to live? I didn't know we were all "he" '
But you propose? Who is the you doing the proposing? Further, what are we proposing? These double standards. Give examples, data, something.
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Dear damasa,
ok, ok, please let me clarify - my post was referring to the following, Killarney Rose wrote:
Killarny Rose wrote:"I like the way my life is, want it to continue the way it is and I make no apologies for it. " and
"We are the strongest nation on earth and therefore we can do whatever the hell we please. That's it in a nutshell and I don't give a rat's behind who agrees with me and who doesn't."
1) My main point was and still is, that I think that arrogance such as "I am powerful so I can do as I please" and the politics resulting from such arrogance increases terrorism!
2) There is no question that what has happend in Afganistan lately isn't for the benefit of the Afghan people.
3) However, that is beside my point!
4) I correct for the politically correct: everyone should be granted to live the life ONE wants. - thank you!
5)with "you" I specifically addressed KillarneyRose - and I interpreted her statement in a way that reads: "because we are a strong nation you (the rest of the world) better do as we please" - maybe that is a bit harsh but that's how I understood it.
6) double standards - and that not only applies to America but the whole western world including the Europeans:
just one example: the Taliban, bad guys, violating human rights - we strike them down. The Chinese - they are violating basic human rights - we trade with them and accept every shit they do because they are powerful.
7) of course that last sentence in my last post ("We cannot lower ourselves down to the level of these disgusting terrorists by applying double standards!") was meant to address the general topic of this thread, namely the conditions in camp x-ray and whether the inmates there are POW's or not. It had no connection to KillarneyRose's post.
In this matter I would like to add that the Geneva Convention states that "when in doubt about the status of POW or not, an international tribunal shopuld decide in that matter". There is nothing to agree or disagree about that - the USA signed the document, period!
Of course the reason why this is not happening is that the authorities want to question the el Quaida fighters which they were not allowed to do if they had POW status. However, and here we come back to the double standard: I cannot violate a convention (by not allowing an international tribune to decide whether the guys are POW's or not) just because it is against my interest.
That is a matter of principle and not of wanting and wishing.
And it has nothing to do with my personal opinion that it would of course be desirable to learn as much as we can from those prisoners and that, indeed, they don't deserve better conditions.
All that matters is if we stick to rules that we set up ourselves and if we apply them to everybody regardless of personal distress or emotions.
I hope that was clarifying enough