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Originally Posted by IvySpice
I have the greatest respect for HBCU's and the many extraordinary leaders they've produced, but what you're saying about the Ivy League just isn't true. As of 2005, the black graduation rate at Harvard is the highest in the country, higher than any HBCU. In fact, all 8 Ivy League schools have higher black graduation rates than the HBCU with the highest black graduation rate (Spelman).
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Soror, based on my assessment of the article, it clearly states the following:
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For many years Harvard University, traditionally one of the nation's strongest supporters of affirmative action, has produced the highest black student graduation rate of any college or university in the nation. But for some unexplained and possibly immaterial reason, Harvard slipped to second place in 2004. But now Harvard's black student graduation rate has increased to 95 percent, once again the highest among U.S. colleges and universities.
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We come now to a most disappointing set of statistics. The graduation rate of African-American students at the nation's historically black colleges and universities (HBCUs) tends to be much lower than the graduation rate for black students at the nation's highest-ranked institutions. Yet the graduation rate at a significant number of HBCUs is well above the nationwide average for black student graduations, which, as stated earlier, currently stands at an extremely low rate of 42 percent.
By a large margin, the highest black student graduation rate at a historically black college belongs to the academically selective, all-women Spelman College in the city of Atlanta. In fact, the Spelman black student graduation rate of 77 percent is higher than the black student graduation rate at 13 of the nation's 56 high-ranking predominantly white colleges and universities referred to earlier. Spelman's unusual strength shows in the fact that it has a higher black student graduation rate than such prestigious and primarily white colleges as Bates, Colby, Berkeley, UCLA, Michigan, Claremont McKenna, and Carnegie Mellon.
Following Spelman in the rankings, the next-highest black student graduation rate among the HBCUs was at Morehouse College and Fisk University. At Morehouse and Fisk, 64 percent of the entering black students go on to graduate within six years. Hampton University, Miles College, Howard University, and Elizabeth City State University in North Carolina sadly are the only other HBCUs that graduate at least half of their black students within six years.
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How many non-ivy league schools can compare to those like Harvard? And what actual statistical measurements are they ranking. Those rates of Black students graduating from a "Harvard" percentage compared to those Black students graduating from the highest graduating ranked "Spelman" school. And the numbers for comparison are suspect.
They obtained the data from the NCAA--National Collegiate Athletic Association and analyzed by the Journal of Blacks in Higher Education... I find it extremely convenient for them to obtain and analyze stats from NCAA then say it is Dept. of Education records. Dept. of Ed. does not = NCAA.
At the last 4 universities I worked in 3 states, the retention and graduation rates of all identified African American students had dismal results.
Or, that could be the thing about Harvard, once they admit you, they will make sure you graduate in something... It may not be your first choice in your goal, but you will succeed in something, even though it is "underwater basketweaving".
The HBCU's do not readily pass folks in classes, nor do they care about your ability to pay, on time, even if they have the financial aid check... I know my professors would be flunking entire classes... And don't skip class, or rather don't get caught skipping...