[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by JessSigKap

What University do you attend?

St. Wilona's University is a fictitious jesuit school in a major metropolitan area.

Originally Posted by sailboatgirl

Not only a boy's story...but we get to hear more about an NPHC journey to membership which should be very educational (at least for me!). So, YEAH for more retro recruitment stories!

Just an FYI..... NPHC stories can and are VASTLY different. I, for one, am pretty honest about the fact that I looked at several organizations, thought I would join one, changed my mind, and five years later found my home. Other people knew they's "always be a...." whatever.

Originally Posted by 12dn94dst

there is something WRONG with YOU!! LOL

Yes..... seriously wrong. lol

Originally Posted by BetteDavisEyes

Mr. Marcus! Nothing like a big black stud to liven up a recruitment thread.

Yes.... and I would be that big black stud no matter which one I pledged.

Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

Did you know that "Lexington Steele" was a member of Omega Psi Phi? It says so on Wikipedia so it must be true.

Actually, he really is an Omega -- I've read an interview where he mentions it.

Originally Posted by Lil' Hannah

I'm rooting for Wesley Pipes!

And please believe that Wesley Pipes was rooting for me.... and still is, LOL

Originally Posted by ladylike

I heard that the body of work for these "organizations" are amazing. Yeah, that's what I heard.

I'm loving the story, Senusret! Could you tell me if St. Wilona is the sister school to St. Thelma, St. Florida and St. Penny?

Yes! They are in the Diocese of Cabrini Green, lol

Originally Posted by AOIIalum

Now, THIS is a recruitment story. Go Rashid go!

I'm going!

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

Isn't that always the case with those MANDINGOS?

Every time... always.

Originally Posted by neosoul

where's Wesley Pipes? he hasn't touched you yet has he, Rashid?

Real talk, to this day I haven't been touched by a Wesley Pipes.

Originally Posted by Ch2tf

Rashid, I think you're one of my favorite story tellers!

Thanks!

Originally Posted by Still BLUTANG

i <3 you! this story is the best

I heart you too

Originally Posted by centaur532

I have to know...did any of the fraternities Hot Box you Rashid?

Don't ask.... don't tell.... tee hee

Originally Posted by Wolfman

You're a true raconteur! Are you going to start channeling E. Lynn now...

Please..... Brother E. Lynn channels ME.

Originally Posted by CrimsonTide4

I've read a lot of great threads on GC, but this one is the best to date.

That means so much coming from you

Originally Posted by Wolfman

As a die hard 27-year member of Mr. Marcus who doesn't fit the so-called stereotype, I think I understand where you are coming from but with a superficial view you will miss the beauty of Mr. Marcus. Mr. Marcus exemplifies what a college fraternity should be about:a real, robust brotherhood where the values and bonds of fraternity are sacred. You have to have depth and passion. It's not for the self-inflated, faux elitist or social butterfly. It's for real men--I say this as an occasional loving critic of the goings on in Mr. Marcus. Once a Founder of Mr. Marcus said of Brian Pumper,' it's not a fraternity;it's a social club.' But alas, there is a fraternity for everyone's tastes. Be the best BP you can be!

My view wasn't superficial. As Mr. Marcus was something I was PROFOUNDLY interested in at one point, I went beyond the surface. When Mr. Marcuses weren't holding it down, I was making excuses for them in my mind. When the public persona didn't match up with what they were about historically, I tried to believe in the duality of Mr. Marcus members.... but that just wasn't the kind of culture I wanted to be part of.

And indeed, while not one of your founders, I could EASILY call Mr. Marcus a social club and not a fraternity based on MY experiences.

In the end, I got in where I was supposed to be.

Originally Posted by 33girl

Wolfman, I think part of what Senusret was saying is that the members of Mr. Marcus he met just didn't hammer away hard enough at what the traditions of the fraternity were about. I'm sure there are Mr. Marcuses out there that have no problem driving the point home!

Exactly.

Originally Posted by Wolfman

Understood. I respect Senusret's experience and enjoy his storytelling, which I like very much. In some ways I identify with him; before I pledged Mr. Marcus, the only things I heard about Mr. Marcus was negative. To the outsider I don't fit the "stereotype" of Mr. Marcus but that's where I belong. I grew as a man out of my engagement with the ethos of Mr. Marcus, not because they necessarily mirrored my personality but because of the ideals and the quality of brotherhood exhibited.It's very challenging;it's not for everyone. An analogy: if Brian Pumper is the US Army,Mr. Marcus is the French Foreign Legion.

From what he's shared on GC and in this thread, he's where he should be. What he values is in concert with Brian Pumper. There is an ideological divide between Mr. Marcus and Brian Pumper which is grounded in history, which I commented on. It has nothing to do with the stereotype Senusret refers to about Mr. Marcus or the contemporary nasty one about Brian Pumper.

While I'm with you on some of your points, I don't agree that there is an ideological divide.