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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

Intelligent thinking and honest people would not based any decisions on skin color. Especially if an interest shows characteristics that the D9 seeks.

Aren't you admonishing us for making our own organization's choices?

Um, no. I'm not admonishing anyone. Disagreeing? Yes. Commenting? Yes. Acting like I choose who joins your org? No. The organizations welcome membership from all races. I personally have a problem with people who don't.

Do you really think that most non-African Americans stroll up to our "areas" and say they are interested?

Couldn't it be that folks of a different ethnic group automatically are interacting or hanging out with African Americans and feel much more comfortable in this setting and decide to pursue a membership?

No, and yeah, I totally understand that. Thus my assumption that the average white interest would be just as dedicated as a black one.

Since NIC/NPC membership drives are inherently different and we do not actively recruit members, and our membership intake extends joining invitations to college graduates, then by default, one who wants to pursue membership would have to take a completely different course of action than what is done in traditional greek organization.

Yes, I understand that and nothing I've said contradicts that.

So, when you say to us "tsk tsk on you D9, you have irresponsible individual members", how do you think that belittling makes us feel?

Except I'm not. I'm saying tsk tsk individual members, that's biased and disappointing in today's society particularly when it goes against the values of your organization. If you're not one of those members, you're not getting "tsked." (And frankly, I'm not really "tsk"ing either.) I commented on a post, I'm not taking on the system. My opinion only matters as much as you want it to as I'm not a member of the D9 and thus can only speak as a fellow Greek.

Hell, I've rather enjoyed this discussion except for the part where I have to keep explaining that I'm aware it's only "one" vote and that the D9 as a whole is open to non-black members. Also, yes, we recruit members differently. Yes the D9 has a specific background. And yes, it is a private organization that can choose its members how it likes. There, I really hope I don't have to type any of those again, because I feel like a Myspace page that someone keeps refreshing. ("Broken Record" is so old fashioned.)

My POV: It's a shame that, despite the organization's guidelines, despite the worthiness of an individual candidate, some people will not vote for a white person because of the color of their skin, and/or the pre-assumption of the person's values and dedication based on the color of their skin.

And, as someone else mentioned, even if Member X is only one vote, a chapter full of members with the same rule means that the majority will keep out white members out of hand.