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Valkyrie, you are right about the fact that not as many women are into the whole visual, right-in-your-face thing as men are.....BUT believe me, there are a lot of women who do like to see it and like someone else said, it's all in fun. I think also that a lot of women have just been conditioned to believe that it isn't "womanly" to be into such things, that the "baser" things in life are natural to men but not to us.....I think a lot of women are embarrassed by their own feelings and would sit there through a striptease blushing and avoiding making eye contact with the guy even if they were enjoying what they were seeing.
A lot of people are kind of getting upset by this whole thing and it is getting a little bit off track. Something that is important to remember is that although there are basic components of morality, it isn't something that is so cut and dried. And certainly, the ideals and moral standards that were in place back when most of our sororities were founded are dramatically different than those in convention today. I don't think any national chapter would be thrilled to have one of their girls doing a tasteless nudie layout and flashing her letters.....I was one of the first to say on this thread that my chapter, Chi Omega, would almost certainly revoke the membership of someone who posed if they found out about it. But to try and make general moral judgments here is out of line. I think it's great that people are so proud of their chapters and that they take the standards of conduct seriously....but not only are these standards subject to interpretation some of them simply don't hold up anymore. Can any of us honestly say that our members are all abstaining from premarital sex? Can any of us say that we don't have sisters who are fabulous assets, great students, etc. but who have engaged in a purely physical one-night fling? Can any of us say that among our numbers there aren't sisters who drink (underage or otherwise,) smoke, or engage in various vices that might be considered questionable?
Art is so very subjective that it isn't worth the time for us to try and hash it out on a GC thread....you will never, ever get everyone to agree on clearly defined peramaters of what is art and what is not. It's all about how a certain piece speaks to you....in his own day Picasso was considered by some to be an aberrant weirdo creating trash, not art. It isn't our place to try and say what is art and what isn't. If someone finds artistic value in something, that's all it is about.
I know I am getting long-winded here, but I just hate to see little flames sparking between people....there seems to be a definite division here, with two distinct "teams" emerging, and that isn't really a great thing. We've all got our own opinions, and none of us are going to make the things we don't like go away. Such is the society we live in. As long as there are hundreds of thousands of young women submitting pictures of themselves trying to get into Playboy, Playboy (and other publications like it) will continue.
I would like to offer one item for thought.....I am a mother. I have a beautiful little girl who is only getting more beautiful as she grows. One look at her tells you that she is going to be an absolute stunner when she grows up. I can't say that I'm sorry about this. Like it or not, beauty equals power in our society. We hear all the time about how men are exploiting women as sex objects, but in truth often it is the women using the power of their beauty to their advantage. I've got to say, I worry about a lot of things that are wrong with our world today as far as it will affect my daughter and son. But I worry about the safety of my daughter's "morality" far more in the setting of a fraternity party with her sisters surrounded by cute, horny, drunk boys than I do in her being self-assured enough to pose for a tasteful Playboy spread. Her virtue is in a lot more danger in that creaky loft than it is smiling out from the pages of a magazine.
Now let's all be friends again and let it go......by the way, anyone know if the girl who started this went for it or not?
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