[dzrose93]

Originally posted by UMgirl
ok, i dont see why a female posing in a mens magazine would get them kicked out of their org. To me, and this is just my opinion, it would be stupid. Its her decision. As long as she is holding up the ideals and being a member in good standing...who cares?

Her sisters care. Her sorority cares. The point is this: you CAN'T be considered a member in good standing if you aren't upholding the ideals of your sorority. For many sororities, these ideals include a moral obligation, which means that you agree to distance yourself from situations that would portray you - and the sorority of which you are a representative - in a bad light.

Say you have a sister who is loved by everyone in her chapter, has a 4.0 GPA and is always on time paying her bills. That's great! That means she has fulfilled 2 of her obligations to the sorority: academic and financial. However, if she poses nude for Playboy, she is NOT a member in good standing because she has failed to live up to the third type of obligation: Moral.

Even though she may be a financially-responsible, intelligent and sweet girl who gets along well with her sisters, she has still fallen short in the eyes of her GLO because she has failed to meet her moral obligation to the sorority. She has conducted herself in a manner that goes against the basic principles of her GLO and, for that reason, she is no longer in good standing. You simply can't pick and choose which tenants of your sorority you want to uphold. You either uphold all of them equally, or you get out. It's as simple as that.

Originally posted by UMgirl
We have to remember that most of our orgs. ideals go wayyy back to the mid 1800's and early 1900's, in a time where it where if women showed an ankle it was considered bad. Things have changed, and truthfully even though they might not admitt it, i think a majority of woman if asked to WOULD pose for playboy. Many of the pics I have seen have been very tasteful and who knows what she would do with all the money. I dont think it says your easy? If you think that someone is easy cuz they pose in a mag, arent you being a lil judgemental?

It doesn't really matter to me if this sounds "judgemental" or not. Sororities are not public entities. They are private organizations which are founded upon very specific ideologies. If girls don't share the ideology of an organization, then they don't have to join. However, when they do decide to join, they shouldn't be surprised when they are asked to follow the creed of the GLO. Nor should they be shocked or angry if they are terminated from the organization for going against those basic principles.

It doesn't matter if your organization's ideals were founded 100 years ago or 10 years ago. The ideals themselves are timeless, and they should be respected and upheld no matter how long ago they were created. For Heaven's sake, it's not like the GLO is asking its members to wear floor length skirts and long-sleeved shirts! The sorority is simply asking its members to act in a way that is considered suitable in polite society. And let's face facts: if being nude in public was considered socially acceptable, then there wouldn't be so many laws regulating pornographic materials, including magazines like Playboy.

As for my comment about girls who pose nude being considered "easy", I am not saying that all of them are. However, I AM saying that they are perceived to be by many people in society. And that simple fact is why sororities do not want their members posing nude. There is a very real stigma attached to the act of revealing your body to the public eye, and sororities do not want to be associated with that stigma.

UMgirl - I'm not trying to offend you with this post. I just want to give everyone an idea of where your sororities may be coming from on this issue, and why they have the feelings that they do.