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Originally Posted by laylo
I did not say or suggest that you were off topic of the discussion, I explained that your interpretation of my statements was incorrect. You interpreted me as saying that people should accept the label society gives them, which is not what I was saying. Generally when any social theorist refers to concepts of race, they are referring to an understanding of the existence of race and what race means in itself, not individuals' racial categorizations of themselves. So when you referred to my point as letting others title me, you were referring to my point inaccurately.
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You made it a point to say that everyone in this topic was talking about Social Construction, if they were, that was not what this topic was totally about, this topic is about race period especially for black people and anything black people have to say concerning this topic is no more or less relevant than your idea of social construction. When you made it a point to say that everyone was talking about Social Construction, you eluded that I was the only one who was not. That is why my interpretation of what you said was that, I was off topic. I believe you know that but you are rather good at twisting things to look good in your direction.
This is what the initial poster of this topic said...
"I think the term african-american is not a good term for people who are of african descent,my family are from jamaica and since they live in the u.s. they should be called jamaican american or afro caribbean american.i call myself jamaican american,african american should be for people how were born in africa not america.
tell me what you think..."
If this person is not talking about titles or the ethnic labels black people have, I don't know what he or she is talking about. However, I woudln't say your idea as well as other peoples idea on Social Construction does not fall into the concept of what the initial poster is talking about but hey, what i wass talking about also falls into the scheme/context of this discussion as well.
Again, Attempting to Redirect: 
What do people in this discussion think about British settlers who by their own will, settled in South Africa? They were and still are racist against the black people who were already there, that being the black indigenous South Africans.
Those British people for the purposes of political reasons, as well as for many other underlining reasons, they are fighting for the right to become as South African as the real South Africans. They are fighting to be referred to as South Africans. This very same thing happened to the Aboriginals of Australia.
How does the above relate to this idea of "social constructs, social construction?"