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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

Most of the time, they know. They would have to be a twit to not know. They just say the don't to "save face" and look like they would "really never knew".

Besides that's a lame excuse and lip service. They will do cartwheels and dance around the really subject at hand and that is Black folks giving their kids funky sounding names because they want their children to be unique and never find little key chains for their names.

Besides, no body says anything when it comes to a polynesian name and it sounding different. Or an asian name and it sounding different from the average American "Joe". But when Black folks do it, for whatever reason, it is ghetto or not giving their child a chance, or demeans them, or ashe...

And we all Black folks know this. So maybe it is our way of protesting our only thing we think we can control as part of our creation--naming our children.

And hey, if that is not an American Truth, then I don't know what is anymore.

EFF cultural norms and mores. EFF all that. I protest.

Touche

Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

Well, it wasn't apparent to me until it was suggested that this is the reason that people give their kids these names. Sure, people don't pick their own names, but they were raised by the same folks who named them in a lot of cases.

I'm not really defending the practice, but if unique names are a way of saying F you to the man, and you can choose a candidate who wasn't so transparently raised by people saying F you to the man and someone who might have been, is it racism alone on which you are basing your decision?

I think KSig responded best to the fact that the people who hold the names in question are being raised by the people who gave them the names. Eventhough we hear the 'product of environment' argument there are people who break the cycle of things that are surrounding them. So for instance is Alizita was surrounded by teen pregnancy, many unemployed adults, welfare and whatever other circumstance that my be stereotypical sh may see the need for improvement and beet the odds! Damn it! She may very well do well in school, yef get effed over because one of the first things seen on her resume' is Alizita! That is total BULL!

Originally Posted by KSig RC

You seriously overrate a parent's influence over child development, as well - turns out, their influence is crushed by the influence of friends, peers, teachers, associates . . . and dumb luck.

Basically, I think you're taking one terrible step too far, and there's no way to justify it.

Agreed!