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Originally Posted by PhrozenGenius
As soon as the term "HBCU" got thrown out there the point of reference became PWI's
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If I'm not the one who brought it up, I'm not talking about PWIs. Assinine that.
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Originally Posted by PhrozenGenius
Well, as we all know you can't have qualitative without info without quantitative aspects and methodology.
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NOT true.
Even if it was true, if you don't have the quantitative info to trump any dissenting qualitative data, what's your point?
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Originally Posted by PhrozenGenius
How many were surveyed? How many people don't respect HBCU's? How can we measure the quality of students at the institutions versus their predecessors? When did HBCU's become less academically rigorous? What institutions in specific? Unless you can answer those questions don't call it qualitative.
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These questions were asked because you don't have a complete understanding of what "qualitative" means when used outside of a "methodology" context. Either way, I made no mention of rigorous methodology or even a survey being conducted. Moreover, many studies use qualitative data in the form of participant observation to go beyond the numbers and see how people really feel. Participant observation sizes can range from 1 to 100. So let's say my sample size was 200 from having had these discussions over the past 10 years. Let's say I've talked to alum from the 1960s to the 2000s. Let's say I won't tell the schools because I don't want to read people's hurt feelings about their HBCU.
What now? Nothing. So, miss me with whatever opinion you have from this point on and whatever lesson you thought you were teaching.
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Originally Posted by PhrozenGenius
Plus, your last statement completely negates your earlier points.
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This makes no sense but that doesn't shock me. I guess you missed this part of my post that came right before the one you attached your ass to:
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Originally Posted by DSTChaos
I'm talking about the colleges and universities as a whole, not particular departments or programs. So mentioning a school's specific program to me doesn't dismiss the idea of it being a struggling HBCU as a whole. I'm also not talking about ALL HBCUs being sucky.
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If you're going to "debate," show that you can completely read and understand the opposing viewpoint before you attempt to counter it.