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Originally Posted by sigmadiva
I agree with everything in your post. But, I would like to point out that there is a timeline at play here. The NPHC MIP was put into place ~1990 / 1991. There are many of us on this board who came through our respective orgs long before that. I was initiated in 1988 when pledging and hazing were very much the accepted norm in NPHC orgs. I said this to say that if someone asks me about my process, or about the NPHC process in general before 1990, then I will tell them how it was - pledging and hazing and all. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see that as an admission of guilt - I may not like it and agree with it, but if that is how things happened, then I am going to talk about it.
Now, if someone comes on here talking about how they were pledged / hazed *after* NPHC MIP was put into place then I think your above statement is very much correct.
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But hazing was illegal before 1990, too. If people before 1990 are bragging about getting hit, eating frat/sorority food, etc, I think there's still a problem. But if someone before 1990 is talking about line names, public greetings, line numbers, etc, that's different.
I do understand both sides though, but as ladygreek would say, even "aboveground" had an "underground."