Please understand that being Greek has more to do with than a peer reputation regarding the viability of how they were "made." It's about the maturity to understand the ideals of the organization you aspire to become a part of and making that a part of your life, your way of being in the world, in your service to the community and humanity, and how you treat everyone, even, ironically, your fraternity brothers. Just last year, I talked with prospective members of my undergrad chapter,which is known for being "rowdy," about the same thing:I grilled them, pressing them to find out if they be active in the Fraternity in 5,10,or 25 years when they willl no longer undergraduate life and have to sacrifice to go to chapter and committee mettings, mentor kids, with pressures of work, family, church,etc.will they be doing what the things the chapter you're looking down the nose at are doing. We have this saying in Omega: It's much harder to be a brother than it is to pledge.That's the acid test! (I say this as someone on the way to 30 years as a member of Omega Psi Phi and still active.)