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Originally Posted by valkyrie
This guy was a grown adult who participated in hazing. Maybe if she'd raised him better he would've had more sense. That's being blunt and an exaggeration of what I'm really saying here, but if she's trying to blame the fraternity, I don't think the fraternity would be wrong to turn around and try to put some of the blame on her. Why should she be entitled to recover money because her adult son did something stupid?
My opinion would be different if there were NEVER any acts of hazing that happened before this and he had no idea what was coming; or if something was slipped into his drink and he was, against his free will, unaware of what was happening; or if he was physically forced to do everything he did and could not possibly escape at any time. Is any of that the case here? All I've heard is that he was blindfolded and taken into the woods -- are you telling me that a healthy adult male couldn't have put the smackdown on anybody trying to blindfold him if he really didn't want to participate?
Yes, this is a tragedy and things like this should never happen again. Yes, these guys were assholes and they should've done something to help him when he was unconscious. However, parents blaming the fraternities is ridiculous. I'm sure my position is unpopular, but holy hell people should take responsibility for themselves and stop blaming others for their actions.
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From my point of view, he was obviously trying to be a normal pledge and did what the guys wanted him to do. Shit, I was naive as hell when I was a freshman in college. I did just about everything that they told me to do during pledgeship. I definitely knew my limits.......but I definitely wanted to participate in everything I could. I think when you are a pledge you absolutely have the notion that everything you are going through was endured by everyone else that went through before you. In a way, that makes pledgeship easier. I really don't think you can always blame parental upbringing when people our age make bad decisions (in some cases, sure you can. Absolutely)...i'll be the first to admit that. I was raised in a pretty strict household and was taught plenty about personal responsibility, accountability, respect, and all of that good stuff.............and I do dumb shit all of the time. Its college.
I do agree with you though on some points. I think blaming the fraternity from an organizational standpoint is pretty lame. If you want to go after individuals, with a valid reason, I can see that being ok.