[kddani]

It's funny that a lot of the people that complain about "frat" are the very people who exemplify "frat boys"

alphatau87, it is NOT effective. The first time I heard a guy use this year ago when I first went greek, I was horrendously offended. (Note, I'm Northern, not easily offended and can have a potty mouth of my own). People who use that phrase exemplify what a "frat boy" is. Crass, ill-mannered, offensive and immature. Someone who is truly a "fraternity man" or "fraternity gentleman" would never use what is probably the single most derogatory word in the English language. Someone who is a "fraternity man" would honor and respect the females in their life and NOT use that word.

Stereotypes exist for a reason in many cases. Someone may be a fraternity man and strive to negate the stereotypes of a frat boy, but there are plenty of frat boys out there keeping the stereotype going.