[blueangel]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

My Doctorate in Molecular Genetics and Medicine from the University of California, San Diego and San Diego State University is enough for you to have to establish my credibility on the subject.

Moreover, my published papers on PubMed and Entrez in human disease as well as my creditials husband's Doctorate of Veterinary Medicine is enough of a reference for you to justify what we both know in the field.

Am I supposed to be impressed? I'm not.. because you have not refuted a single statement which I made, nor have you quoted any references to back up your point of view. I, on the other hand.. supplied you with the references. Why haven't you addressed my specific statements? You can't refute them, perhaps?

What is the actual physical protocol to isolating cells, growing them, enucleating embryos and combining the two items through electroporation?

Tell me what serum you use? Tell me what antibotics, if any, you use? How does one grow bovine fibroblasts and obtain the nuclei?

Is this a science test? No, I think it is merely a diversion because you can't refute any of the statements which I backed up with references. Can you?

I did not spend an excessive amount of time in graduate school to justify anything to you or anyone for that matter.

Translation: You won't because you can't.

Then, it is pretty bold for the South Koreans to say anything regarding cloning since they said they cloned the first human embryos and later found out they defrauded the scientific community...

What has that got to do with the price of beer?

Yeah, the US really has a glut of meat products... Okey... So why does it cost so much at the grocery store? And don't say it's because it's all about taxes...

Do I now need to give you an economics lesson? It's called "supply and demand"--
You can read all about it here:
http://www.qcbusinessjournal.com/art...re/1022491.txt

If you're referring to tax breaks to beef producers-- yes, that does partially influence the price of beef. For example, when Mad Cow was discovered in Washington in 2004, the house and senate offered temporary relief to the beef industry.... and in 2006, tax relief for livestock producers during the drought.

Besides the Seattle Times and the Seattle PI are piss poor in their scientific astuteness. I live here, they barely understand the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center, much less Univeristy of Washington's research. I wouldn't trust the paper nor the ink that Seattle Times or PI prints in regard to science. And I will be more than happy to forward your email to my Prinicipal Investigator who can share all his views about the quality of scientific news coming out of Seattle. No one would say it. But in 10 years, that will all change since Paul Allen is interested in it...

So where are all of your references?

I could care less what those other countries you listed think about the US products. We aren't starving... And our safety and efficacy to obtain our animal products is a much better than all their veterinary protocols and they know it. We block our exports of foodstuff, you will see WWIII or terrorist actions, whatever. Folks get pissed if not fed.

No, we're not starving.. instead, we're being exposed to all kinds of hormones and antibiotics being injected into beef. There is also very little testing being done for mad cow.

The Parker Ranch in Hawaii has to export their calves for veal. But let them stop... Let me know what happens when they do...

Again, what has that got to do with the price of beer?

I myself am a ovo-lacto-vegetarian. I don't like the taste of meat. My husband loves it. And if he wants it, I will get it for him.

And your point? How does this relate to cloning, or are we just going on yet another pointless diversion because you have not been able to refute any of the points I made?

But lack of B12 vitamin causes psychiatric neurological problems... Maybe that's what you are suffering from--delusions.

And that just answers my question. When someone feels the need to attack the poster rather than the subject.. that simply means that the person doing the attacking doesn't have a leg to stand on in a debate.