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Jaynu,

There is a BIG difference between kids falling off balconies or dying of overdoses and the forced drinking to death in this case.

The former are unfortunate tragedies that derive from behavior that is common for many college students- Greek and non-Greek.

The incident in this thread was deliberate and incredibly stupid, and it is one of many over the years that has happened with an unregistered GLO at Texas. These problems are not the result of the organizations being of a particular race. They are problems of organizations that exist without proper structure or guidance.

That sure seems evident in their behavior. I can imagine a non-Greek student getting drunk and driving, or falling off a roof while intoxicated. Overdoses happen all the time.

How often does ANYONE force-feed someone booze until they die? It takes the pledge-active relationship of a GLO to make that possible, but it takes a pretty messed up group of people to actually do it. The continued parties after the incident (the article Jon posted which I read in Houston when it came out), certainly do not tell the tale of an organization that recruits men on solid principles.

Guidance and structure can be lacking in any chapter, but by their very nature unregistered GLOs are operating in a far less safe manner than any GLO which is responsible to a strong national office and a university.

I have no problem with new GLOs- why should I? The more of us there are serving an increasingly diverse student population, the better off the Greek community is as a whole.

But when organizations put out a public appearance of being Greek groups for university students (ie they have Greek letter names) but they do not even bother to associate themselves in name and responsibility the same as other GLOs, they are merely trying to rip off our prestige and then damage us all when something goes wrong.

NPHC organizations in many cities exist just fine outside the scope of university representation. They also have their own methods of recruiting and membership that set them apart. They are not trying to have the benefit of being associated with a college and at the same time avoid the responsibility of other student organizations.

And spare me the BS about representation on councils. Texas has a council for Asian-specific GLOs- but only sororities are members of that council.

If, as you imply, the failure of Asian male GLOs to be officially registered with the University or a council is racially motivated, how come the Asian GLO council (which is not specifically stated to be reserved only for sororities) does not have any of the many Asian male GLOs?

For that matter, considering how many different Texas councils there are for registered GLOs of a wide range of racial groups- how is it possible that you are being kept away from doing the same? Is there a conspiracy against Asian fraternity members?

The reason that and so many groups are underground is obvious by their behavior in this case- specifically what they did and then what they did after the fact.

The racial connection is purely coincidental. GLOs in this country have traditionally been home to white students- and with membership on a slight decline overall, there is little need for more predominantly white GLOs.

And so it is natural that growth in the number of GLO organizations will tend to be for groups that are conceived by and largely serve members of minority groups- who are also attending college in greater numbers.

So nice try, but this is not about race. This is about groups that lead a marginal existence, try to appear to be the same as us, and make us all suffer when they do something stupid that gets heavy publicity- which is far more often than it is for us.

Newspaper readers are discerning. Are you going to tell me they don't see the difference between a young man falling and dying while at home versus a pledge being force fed booze until he died?

Incidentally, not all the traditional long-lived GLOs are white. There are some NPHC organizations older than some of the larger traditionally white organizations.

Point being, "We" and "Us" was not the racially discriminatory type comment you would like to associate with my post.