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Old 11-16-2006, 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by shinerbock View Post
Sigh, I just can't deal with that mindset. "Its ok, you have money, don't worry about it..." Yeah, we'll live, but that doesn't make it right. Affirmative Action probably won't ruin my life, but it doesn't make it right. I'm also amazed at how people just assume that the upper classes are so deeply involved in tax shelters and write-offs that the high bracket doesn't affect them. Go to an upper middle class neighborhood and ask those people how it feels to work for the government from Jan-May every year.
LOL. This paragraph borderlines on pretentious.

It's cool that you're taking ownership but also try not to take such ownership over this whole thing and see it from a new perspective. As a black woman who can't relate to being in poverty (well, graduate student poverty is only a temporary reality when you know you have always had options) I have to also be able to step outside of my class, race, and gender position and see different angles.

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Our country is not our government, if thats how you think, then wow, we're worse off than I thought. America's strength is its people, always has been, always will be. Do you honestly think the government is how people survived during the great depression? No, they survived because their fellow man helped them out. We're so out of touch with what made America great, I'm beginning to fear its lost. Its not our government who sacrifice their lives and their careers to fight for our country, its our individual citizens. Not to be morbid, but sometimes I think the lack of adversity most Americans have to go through is making this country weak, because its people are completely unprepared to sustain it. Thankfully, there are still some people around to instill those values in some of us. Note, thats not a shot at you, its a shot at Americans in general.
I'm not convinced by much of what you typed. I feel as though it's idealism and humanized nationalism, which I think contradicts much of your posts against AA and social welfare programs. If it's about the people then, based on the logic I'm reading from your posts, self-serving citizens who want to succeed while other hardworking Americans fail should be considered unAmerican.

I do believe in the existence of a Protestant Ethic but, as you articulated, we don't get where we are by ourselves. We work hard and pull each other up by our bootstraps where we need to. So I hope you see how you've just supported the necessity of affirmative action and social welfare programs. When people don't choose to or can't pull each other up, the government programs are there. The government taxes us and reminds us that our hard earned money goes into the same pot.
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