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Sure, I'm for a safety net, if it were feasible. The fact is, its really not now. It is simply a logistical and financial nightmare to help people get back on their feet while ensuring they are doing their part to make the assistance temporary. Also, we're never going to fix poverty, as you seem to agree, but I don't think we'll make any substantial gains when the government is leading the way either. I agree with you that the point is obviously not to discourage responsibility, but regardless, it has. I also agree with you that the large majority of people getting help aren't sitting around waiting for a check, or continuing to have children or whatever, but the fact is that plenty of them are.
As for the upper classes, you're right, some had help along the way. But more importantly, somewhere along the way, those people's father or grandfather busted his ass to provide a future for his family. Is that happening in today's society? Sure. As much? I don't think so.
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