[RACooper]

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

*pulls up sleeve*

how many others do I know? I'd rather not talk about them, I will let them rest.

so I am weak and a coward? You've only seen the struggle of others, not gone through it yourself.

Please see my earlier post about depression - with severe depression suicidal thoughts are pretty much par for the course. And yes, even after having experienced suicidal thoughts I still view those who have attempted suicide as weak, cowardly, and selfish ~ in fact I'd say it was dealing with and working throught the severe depression that strengthen this view.

I agree that suicide is pointless (now, I didn't always, obviously) but cowardice? No. Suicide isn't born out of cowardice or fear, usually what feels like a very clear head, and sudden urge to "act now, for good"

Most people commit suicide because they feel everything is hopeless and they can't go on - they are afraid to face another day... and that to me makes them a coward - no matter how "brave" they were to take a final "for good" act... because even then they are still afraid to face another day, or face up to the consequences of their act.

I could go on, but I don't feel like it because it's like explaining baseball to someone who has never seen a game. I can tell you all the rules and describe it, but if you've never been there, you just can't know.

Again - read my earlier post responding to the question about suffering from depression. Again - I have been there, and I have experienced the creeping and clawing darkness that is depression - I think it takes more courage to face the fears and doubts caused by depression, than it does to eat your gun and effectively hide from them forever.