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Centaur, uhhh, the Constitution allows for the suspension of habeas corpus...This isn't the first time this has happened.
As for ole RACooper. I do make fun of liberals, whats your point? I've yet to insult gays, other than to say a tryst with a teenage page is disgusting, which it is. I have no idea what you're talking about regarding McVeigh, but that doesn't surprise me considering the ridiculous statements you've made to this point.
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From your post in Christian Terrorists Hijack a Plane:
http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ma#post1334139
“ The Oklahoma City Bombing had nothing to do with the people they were attacking. I believe they've even claimed that they had no real intention of harming the victims. The crime was intended to be against the government. How is that comparable to attacks which target civilians solely because of their faith or belief? Its not.
Sorry but that looks like your trying to gloss over this gross act of domestic terrorism; and what’s more disturbing is that it looks like you aren’t familiar with the motivations and beliefs of the bomber.
Here’s some helpful, and basic, links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_bombing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Turner_Diaries
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As for what Canada has to offer...
Beaches- You're kidding. Coastline =/= beaches. American beaches are far superior to Canadian beaches, I hardly think this is a debate. Granted, I've only been to Prince Edward Island, which was quite nice, but not comparable to the wealth of beaches in the U.S.
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Depends on what your looking for in a beach – if your looking for swimming or if your sunning; personally I love swimming/skiing/windsurfing, and I much prefer doing that on/in fresh water… anyways here’s a link to two beaches “near” me, which I vacation at (when I feel like the beach and not the lake):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasaga_Beach%2C_Ontario
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sauble_Beach%2C_Ontario
Oh interesting factoid – Toronto has a nude beach (Hanlan’s Point) out on the Toronto Islands…Oidhche Bhealtaine and Lugnasadh were a blast this year (only place where you can do the festivals naked in Toronto)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlan%27s_Point
Got me here… was going by the PC pamphlet comparing per captia income and services; as well as unemployment figures – I guess they’re massaging the facts in preparation for the upcoming election (municipal, and with a minority government federally, one is always “upcoming”).
I was also going by the unemployment figures as printed in said pamphlet; but looking at them and visiting the StatsCan website I see that they used the Labour Force Survey numbers as they looked better… the unemployment rate figures and graph will prove a problem for Harper, since the numbers/percentage has been climbing starting three months after he took office (which is kinda weird since they should have had a downward trend during the spring and summer).
Anyways – live and learn: don’t rely on party documents for facts (particularly from this Hats & Horses crowd which back Harper)
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World Influence- Not to be mean, but Canada isn't influential, militarily or otherwise...
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I’m sorry that you see “hard-power” or realpolitik as the only measure of a nation’s influence – I happen to be very happy with the concept of “soft-power”, the rule of law, and multilateralism… so will have to disagree.
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Wars- Yes, I'm sure Canada knew all along that the intelligence was bad, despite many, many intelligence agencies confirming the same thing. I know Canadians think appeasing terrorists will keep them off their doorstep, we shall see, however...
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While yes, Canada did accept the intelligence about the WMD – Canadian intelligence (CSIS) didn’t deem the intelligence from defectors, that painted Iraq and Saddam as an imminent threat, as credible... mainly because the defectors stories didn't stand up to investigation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_and_the_Iraq_War
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Decent Beer- Once again, you're joking correct?
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No, I am not kidding in the least – I make it a habit to try the local brews wherever I visit (on that note avoid Italian beers like the plague) and sure there are some good beers from Sam Adams, and I do like Yuengling, but for the most part the vast majority of American beers are… how did Monty Python out it? “Like making love in a canoe: F—king close to water”.
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People like yourself often call others ignorant, simply for having likes/dislikes. I don't like terrorists, how does that make me ignorant? I don't like people who deride America, how does that make me ignorant? Try standing for something, you may find you like it. On a side note, I've changed my mind about the Canadian military, I imagine some are quite courageous. My statement is directed towards the general population. I do like Harper, however.
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Right: I’d like to know why you think the only some of the CAF are courageous, and why the general population of Canada isn’t? Seems pretty hypocritical to state you hate people who deride your country and then turn around and do the same thing by implying that Canadians and most of it’s military are cowards…
As for Harper - I don't see him lasting much longer than another year, given the rumblings within the party about his leadership. Unfortunately it's going to take some time for the party to recover from the Hats & Horses/Bible Thumpers regime. My only hope is that the Liberals make such a botch of the leadership that the Tories have time to regroup.