[midwesterngirl]

Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

Here’s one of the things that’s troubling me about the whole “let’s get rid of the AI forum”:

Many of the folks so adamantly against AI info online have themselves advised people in the AI forum. And no, I’m not talking about people who went through the AI process themselves.

I’m talking about a group of people who seemed to turn against the AI forum at about the same time they were complaining that their insulting and rude posts were being deleted from the AI forum. It seems to me that rather than a genuine concern about AI info online, their interests comes out of “if I cannot be mean and control the AI conversations, I don’t think they should be allowed.” After many harsh, rude, and unhelpful posts all over GreekChat, they suddenly have become very concerned about how their groups look to others online.

The AI forum has been out of hand for a good long time and has been a point of concern for at least a couple of years.

Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

I agree that AI should be a process directly by the groups rather than the PAI, but since the PAI can’t force their way into a real life group, allowing people to ask questions about the public parts of the process here doesn’t seem to do any harm.

I think this is where we were misunderstanding one another. Now the correct question has been asked, I can give you an answer. The problems arose, when we had PAI's who did approach real life groups and basically tried to force their way into any group that would take them just to have letters, any letters. Instead of having their motives discretely questioned, they were blindly led to believe that their behavior and the motives for it were acceptable and that sort of look at me,banner waving was accepted as the norm. Any person on GC who questioned their motives was deemed "mean and unfriendly" and often worse. Since many of these " big meanies" were national officers whose opinions were being pushed aside for dishonest blanket sunshine, policies had to change and people started to just not be nice anymore.

Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

Please understand that I’m not lumping all people who opposed the AI forum into the group that I have described above. I think anyone whose read GreekChat for more than a month could take a stab at who I mean.

That isn't fair. Yes, many of us are very direct and on more than one occasion we probably have used a poor choice of words to express our feelings and concerns.However, there is a small minority who likes to stir up just as much trouble who scream persecution. The difference is that the meanies will admit to being mean but the other troublemakers won't.