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Old 09-30-2006, 02:11 PM
DSTCHAOS DSTCHAOS is offline
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Originally Posted by jon1856 View Post
DSTCHAOS;
OK, how about if we cull the argument down? Get off of the extremes? See if we can get to some sort of middle ground.
And also talk out all of this in the contex of rush and pledging....

The discussion is going fine as far as I'm concerned, as long as the extremes are duly noted.

The only conclusions that will come from these types of discussions are:

"Good" hazing = good...
"Bad" hazing = bad...
Because...
The legal definition = too broad...
But, doing things that fit into this definition = illegal...
Pledging does not = hazing...
But based on the legal definition of hazing, pledging usually = hazing...
For many organizations, pledging is illegal just as hazing is...
...and all the King's horses and all the Queen's men, or something like that.....
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