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Originally Posted by macallan25
The right type of hazing absolutely makes your chapter better ...
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If I were active in an org that hazed, and I thought that our org was better BECAUSE of the hazing, I'd wonder what's wrong with my org. Seriously.
I think I can understand where you're coming from, but it sounds like you're selling your fraternity short. If the fact that you haze improves your fraternity, then your fraternity needs some help. By that, I don't mean you need help in learning how to phase out hazing; I mean, you need help in selecting the right men, in cultivating the ideals shared by your founders, in building bonds based on mutual respect (and not on things like how well you clean the bathroom), etc...
Maybe I'm misreading your posts, but if I were a pledge in your org, and saw that you believed that because you can haze me our org is better than others, I'd think you wanted to be in a group only to exert your power over others instead of wanting to be there because of the friendships, networking, etc., involved.