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Originally Posted by jon1856
There seem, after reading saveral postings, some confusion on Military training and military hazing.
Training is very hard, but generally is not hazing. While hazing does go on in the military, it is against military code of conduct. And it does get enforced. At least three members of a sub crew were just CM for it.
There are several hazing threads here with links in them or just do a search for hazing sites so you can see just what hazing is.
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Hazing (based on the legal definition of the term that all of us must adhere to) occurs at every stage of the military. Cites like stophazing.org provide additional info and even discuss military hazing at every stage. Just because the perpetrators and victims of hazing don't come forward or don't define it as "hazing," doesn't make it not hazing (since we all have this legal definition to adhere to).
Basic training is meant to be difficult. But this difficult, almost
no-holds-barred-for-the-sake-of-combat-training environment has allowed the military a lot of leeway. Too much Leeway (whether in the military or anywhere else) always opens the door to inappropriate conduct and hazing, whether hazing is against codes of conduct and anti-hazing is "enforced" or not. (Afterall, hazing is against GLOs' codes of conduct and anti-hazing is "enforced" in GLOs also. But we see that hazing is still rampid and widespread.)