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Originally Posted by valkyrie
I don't like martinis, but if I had to have one, it would be something that did not involve gin and olives, which I hate -- so what would be the point, right? 
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Ah, my pet, you could have the 'classic martini' but made with vodka and then garnished with a lemon twist. No gin, no olives and it is *STILL* a true, classic martini.
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Originally Posted by xo_kathy
Thanks you for the info, CP! I have never liked the shaken not stirrred comment. Mostly because I relate much more to Auntie Mame, who said to her youing nephew as he prepared her martini:
"Stir, never shake. It bruises the gin!" 
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You are very welcome! Yes, one thing that I learned from the bartending classes is that, if in doubt, you default to "stirring" not shaking. Sure, shaking is a bit more exciting to watch the bartending doing, but as Auntie Mame said, you are bruising the gin (or vodka)....i.e. diluting it with water from the ice. And who wants a watered down drink? "Not I", said the fly.