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Originally Posted by EE-BO
I think the whole point of the thread is getting lost here.
..... I would be eager for someone to find me any good Greek House that turns out strong and aggressive leaders that has a spotless record. It doesn't exist.
The question is about what hazing you endured and what value you think it had. This is a good thing to think about and discuss. But get beyond that and it just becomes pointless finger-pointing- and perhaps jealousy directed at schools with old money Greek systems.
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In my experience, if a house has strong and aggressive leaders ( and I will add smart) it should have a spotless record. For they are the ones that will lead the house away from trouble rather than into it. On the other hand, weak, dumb leadership..........
When I was undergrad, good, smart, sharp leaders and great house.
Few years ago, poor, dumb, weak leadership and chapter=house and charter gone.
Jealousy? How about care, interest and concern? Care, interest and concern that any GLO house does not lose its way in this day and age. Care, interest and concern that any GLO member or house does not cause damage to themselfs, itself, its National and the rest of GLO?
I was "brought up" to think, see and understand beyond the four walls of the house.
Was I hazed??? Looking back at it and having looked up TODAYS laws, my class came very close to the edge. BUT we did not go over it nor did we ever get that close again. We also tried to stay on the pro and positive side. Team building. Not able to say that about other house on campus at the time.
And unlike others here, when I got together with most of my class, pledgship never even came up. Lots of other things did like where were my 6000 photos and slides..........Very safe place....