In my sorority, we do not haze at all. no matter what. new members do not have to do anything if they don't want to. the only thing they need to do is complete a new member education class. and even then there isn't a test or quiz and we never ask on the spot information. the point is, the girls should want to know these things. they should want to do things with us. if they didn't we would have realized they weren't interested in the sorority during recruitment and would have never given then a bid.

For me, the difference is that, as the example about the old Bavarian horn thing, that club was about hunting, so yeah, the members should know how to hunt. But making a girl do calisthenics, or my house cleaning or whatever else goes on (i don't pretend to know) doesn't prove to me that she is going to support me in a time of need, or be good at helping out at our benefit car wash, or bond with me during a retreat.

If a girl isn't going to do these things, even if not with me but one of my sisters, then i think she'd be smart enough not to join. maybe this is just because on my campus, sorority membership doesn't equal a status symbol. if you don't want to help with our philanthropies, participate in campus activities with us or become our sister, then don't join. knowing what the sorority does and everything it entails and still saying "yes, i want to be apart of this." is enough for me.