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Originally Posted by shinerbock
Kyle, while some of that may be banned, I don't really see what the problem of most/any of it is. Seems to me all those things had relevant points. We did many things similar to all of those, and while difficult, they were also fun. People often speak about how hazing harms self esteem. "Hazing," done correctly, builds both brotherhood and personal confidence. It takes strong people and makes them into responsible and confident adults. My personal opinion is that if you can't handle it, don't pledge. There are obviously other places you can go if you want an easy walkthrough pledgeship.
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Shiner-After seeing many of your comments, after a very long, hot, and tiring day at work, my first thought is that you may truly believe that what was done in say the 1800's is the only way to do things.
The trouble is at all too often "Hazing" is done just because.....NOT to build "Brotherhood" and "Personal confidence" ( which from your own prior posts is only your chapter house and NOT your National group).
All too often these days people get hurt or worse. Which is where the Risk Coverage that you love to be covered by your Nation comes into play.
But since Nations do not enjoy paying High premiums, that is where Risk Management comes in.
My old chapter, back in the day, came very close to crossing the line and we saw it, understood it and STOPPED it. We understood that while some negitives can be, if used in small amounts (like a line-up), one is far better to use positive matters.
And the reason that my house is now occupied by the Sigma Nu's ( I have met them and they are nice but...IN MY HOUSE LOL) is that they did not see it, understand it nor did they stop it.
Chapter houses of GLO, or any living group for that matter have to be smarter on how they handle personall matters. Just like the real world that is facing them down the road. Just like Law School for you Shiner and beyond.
Time for dinner and some very cold water.....