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Originally Posted by shinerbock
Alright then. What are the benefits of lineups? They test the knowledge of the pledges, make them depend on each other, make them responsible for each other.
What is the benefit of a road trip (in this case, dropping them somewhere and making them accomplish something, or get back to the fraternity house)? Once again, requires the pledges to overcome difficulty and personal disagreements in order to achieve a common goal.
Basically ALL hazing has a point. The only hazing I really think is stupid, is that which recklessly endangers (hitting them, making them take risks that really are dangerous, exposing them to the elements for extended periods...). All the other stuff has a point behind it.
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I joined a local non-greek house at Whittier College that hazed the hell out of me. Hazing included physical calisthenics, getting hosed down with water and being forced to "play" in the mud, one ceremonial paddling that hurt like a bitch, an "orientation test" (being dropped in the middle of nowhere with pledge brothers and given $20 to get home), and doing offical greetings in public (lining up as a class and shouting "GOOD AFTERNOON BROTHER SO AND SO!" in unison in a public setting like a dining hall), line ups and isolated interrogations.
The "societies" at Whittier got away with all of this with implicit knowledge of the school because they were the big donors! Whittier is a small private school and it's the Society alumni that donate, in exchange the administration looks the otherway during blatent hazing situations. All the aforemented hazing happened ON CAMPUS (minus the orientation test), some Societies even had their pledges construct a beer sofa on the quad with empty cans that they had drank.
I joined Sigma Nu because of it's foundation on honor and non-hazing. Of course candidates are required to know the history of the fraternity but that doesn't mean we need to line up pledges and drill them, screaming at them when they slip up a word or two of the open creed. Line ups are totally ridiculous and create robots, not leaders. Pledges should be self-motivated. If a pledge isn't holding his weight and participating in his own fraternal education then that is what the Depledgement option is for.