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Originally posted by JEFFtheBETA
Dear Fred:
Oh yeah, sure, abolish fraternities and sorrorities. That will solve all the hazing problems. Wait a minute, what about all those high school kids who get hazed when they join sports teams? Their deaths don't count?
You might want to check your history too. Greeks didn't invent hazing. Testing one's loyalty or abilities or whatever prior to initiation into exclusive organizations was practiced centuries before this nation or any GLO's were even founded. Besides, even the U.S. military "hazes" its recruits and officer candidates. Does that mean that we should abolish the military too?
I don't condone hazing at all because hazing is forcing someone ot do something against their will as a condition of earning status or title. If a person has no objection to such treatment, then the act in question is not hazing. If a person has objections to such treatment, then it is that individual's responsibility to reevaluate whether or not that organization is one they truly want to join. Like many other things in life, GLO's are not for everybody, but hey are for some. Just because some people are not willing to accept the conditions of joining an exclusive organization, it does not mean that others should be denied the opportunity to try.
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I get what you are saying about Greeks not inventing hazing,however I think we should be careful about talking about the military does and doesn't do and why or why not. My father retired from the military and served two tours in a war. I am sure he went through some hazing (he was in from the 1950s-1980s), but he was QUICK to correct someone who tried to relate it to Greek hazing. I don't condone hazing either way but let's be real about this. Now some of the stuff was silly, but his major compliant with Greeks trying to compare themselves (not saying that this is what you were doing but I have met Greeks who do this), to the military is that in the military you are being trained for life and death situations. If you slip up with information or don't know information, you can kill 10s of people within seconds. If you are not in shape, you may slow down your unit and cause someone to be seriously killed or injured... when is this going to happen in the civilian world? Greeks are not training people to survive in jungles or deserts, they are simply doing it just for the sake of tradition (in many cases). There is no life or death reasoning behind what Greeks are doing. If anyone feels that there is an has a supporting example, please share.