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Originally posted by MysticCat81
But members of various NPC orgs have specifically stated here at GC that new members in their orgs do have all the rights and privileges of initiated members -- even including the right to vote and hold office -- except for participation in ritual activity prior to initiation. And quite a few more have stated that anything that seperates or draws distinctions bewteen new members from initiated members is considered hazing. That's what I was basing my observation on.
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I see what you are saying...
Some may call me insensitive, but when hazing becomes defined in such a way I think it caters to the spoiled and entitled attituteds that some individuals have and bring into our institutions.
Nothing is ever owed to anyone unless they earn it.
And while some would say that's the logic behind real hazing...I say it can also be the logic behind resonable and respectable requirements for membership.
Not many other things that are considered a privilage in this world are treated as handouts. Scholarships, Job opportunities, Recognition for achievement, even the ability to even go to college...are all based on the notion that one must demonstrate qualifications for the higher privilages they seek. They just don't hand out Nobel Prizes on street corners do they...
And if we consider membership in our chapters a privilage for those who demonstrate high ideals...then it too should not be treated as a "freebie". If it is, then it will only dilute the worth of being a member.
What's next. Someone argues that being expected to pay their initiation dues is hazing? Or perhaps even being expected to perform to higher academic standards than the rest of the student body. Soon our high ideals will be replaced by mediocracy and then we have completely lost the foundation of our justification for existance as organizations.