Well, the difference between Toni and Joan to me is that they've always known how Toni was. There was no way from the jump she'd be acting that she does and be a part of MY life, but at least she kept it real.
Joan flipped the script. Got a little clout and is trying to be something that she really can't work. It's irritating to see Toni like she is, but it's sad to see Joan like that.
H&H. If Mona wants to mess up with Chase, fine. I'll be happy to take him off her hands.
Mona's esteem is so low it's not even funny. But that's real--I've met quite a few relationship self-sabatogers.