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Originally posted by enigma_AKA
But Rudey--how many kids DIE in boot camp in that matter? For sure they are subject to SOME level of ridicule/physical torment in the form of labor or otherwise and you're correct, the guards and the environment is intimidating for a reason. And so it should be. But when you are intimidated, you're supposed to get some 'act right' or better yet, change your behaviors eventually as to not recieve punishment again (sort of a learned behaviorial adjustment). But when you die, you don't have the option of changing for the better. He wasn't supposed to DIE. And they didn't (not all of those big, manly-men; not any of them) had to beat him like THAT. It's the unneccessary death that I am fixated on, not the state of boot camps at this point.
Also, military boot camp is different. Grown men and women who are sent there are being sent to develop a thick skin for combat and other warfare neccessities by CHOICE. Not to say it's right if they die in boot camp, but they are there of their own volition, knowing the consequences of extreme physical stress and so forth. A child isn't sent to boot camp for these same reasons.
I won't say that if another Black kid dies, that it won't be taken seriously. I wouldn't even say the next minority victim case will not be taken seriously, either. I would hope that, for any race, if a child dies due to wrongful measures taken by the people who are there to protect him, that people would be up at arms. Hell, if Pat Robertson wanted to rally on a child's behalf, it wouldn't make the situation or the wrongful-ness of the situation, any less valid.
enigma_AKA
PS--You say most men in jail are raped?  That would be a deterent for ANY man to be incarcerated. Rape is not the business.
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How many die? I don't know. Maybe it's zero prior to this but I really don't know.
Military boot camp isn't that much different. They take a kid that's as young as 17 and break him down and build him back up. It's not just about building a tough skin from what I understand but to build someone according to your specifications.
And it looks like a racial issue. If it wasn't the case they wouldn't mention anyone's race in the media or would have made a concerted effort to not invite the two reverands.
And I don't know what the statistic for rape in jail is but it's significant. They also released a study that said a lot of guys get AIDS in jail at a higher rate than the general public and when they're released they help spread it. I don't know why that doesn't scare someone into not wanting to go to jail. I've seen Oz, American Psycho, read Monster, and I would never ever want to be there.
-Rudey
--And the 90% thing was a reference to guys that are supposedly straight.