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Originally posted by Rudey
I mean aside from it not being fun to go to boot camp, do you realize what separates it from group therapy at the local ymca? I mean those guards are big and/or scary for a reason. So either you're subjected to a lot of physical labor or some type of violence to break you down and build you up again.
So do I believe that kids get beaten all the time in boot camps? Yes. Do I think it's on tape? No.
Every once in a while a soldier dies in a military boot camp also. It's sad and upsets people, but it doesn't draw on racial lines.
And I don't think anyone would be in trouble if an inmate killed another inmate. And they rape each other all the time. That's every guy's worst nightmare (well 90% of guys if the statistics are correct).
I wouldn't say it's a race issue if those protestors hadn't invited the two reverands, but they did. And that's sad to the kid who died and also to those who really do suffer because of a racial incident in the future and won't be taken as seriously.
-Rudey
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But Rudey--how many kids DIE in boot camp in that matter? For sure they are subject to SOME level of ridicule/physical torment in the form of labor or otherwise and you're correct, the guards and the environment is intimidating for a reason. And so it should be. But when you are intimidated, you're supposed to get some 'act right' or better yet, change your behaviors eventually as to not recieve punishment again (sort of a learned behaviorial adjustment). But when you die, you don't have the option of changing for the better. He wasn't supposed to DIE. And they didn't (not all of those big, manly-men; not any of them) had to beat him like THAT. It's the unneccessary death that I am fixated on, not the state of boot camps at this point.
Also, military boot camp is different. Grown men and women who are sent there are being sent to develop a thick skin for combat and other warfare neccessities by CHOICE. Not to say it's right if they die in boot camp, but they are there of their own volition, knowing the consequences of extreme physical stress and so forth. A child isn't sent to boot camp for these same reasons.
I won't say that if another Black kid dies, that it won't be taken seriously. I wouldn't even say the next minority victim case will not be taken seriously, either. I would hope that, for any race, if a child dies due to wrongful measures taken by the people who are there to protect him, that people would be up at arms. Hell, if Pat Robertson wanted to rally on a child's behalf, it wouldn't make the situation or the wrongful-ness of the situation, any less valid.
enigma_AKA
PS--You say most men in jail are raped?
That would be a deterent for ANY man to be incarcerated. Rape is not the business.