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Originally posted by brynnapple
Thank you for the reminder, but seeing as though what we are discussing goes above and beyond knowing how to use the quote feature...your point is menial
Please don't take my comment as a personal attack..once again this is a message board and what makes it interesting is differences of opinion...so before you go into attack mode and assume I don't know what I'm talking about, check your attitude at the door.
There is no need for me to know about each d9's founding principles or their community service initiatives to assert that there are definitely non-d9 organizations, and persons who are not affiliated with an organization that due very meaningful and effective community service regularly.
For example, Alpha Phi Omega has 17,000 student members at 361 campuses nationwide. In my particular chapter we conduct very effective and meaningful service. For example, this entire school year we have been working with seniors in our city to make sure that their most basic needs are met. It's one thing to make sure someone has signed up for their prescription drug benefit, but their lack goes much deeper when they can't even feed themselves. (disclaimer: I stated this to demonstrate how useless and condescending it is to even place a value on the service someone does. Some service initiatives might be more far-reaching in its impact than others, but that doesn't mean one type of service is better than the other). So, my chapter has founded an undergraduate division of the Emmaus senior services, where we make personal visits each month to seniors homes to socialize with them, to identify whether their basic needs are being met, and to report back to those agencies that have the means of supplying those needs. We're like their advocates.
I understand that you may not see similiar types of service as your organization does occuring in your area, but until you know each and every type of service done by each and every organization across the United States, and until you can vouch for the fact that each and every chapter of your organization has lived up to its mandate, then the statement you made concerning whether someone's service makes an "effective difference" is invalid, and thoughtless. You can't place a value on service.
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You are right about the service fact.
I will only speak on my area where I live because that is where I do the greatest amount of my own service to all mankind. Other locations are important and sure I should be concerned. At this time, I can only make sure my backyard is cleaned up before I clean someone else's front yard...
And yes, the "search function" is your friend. This discussion ought to be placed in the "greeklife" or at least "philanthropies".
You responded to my comment which is not clear at first until I identified it as mine. My comment was made in response to my phrat Corinthian1906 who is speaking to my soror Skeephistakated about why one choses to date a d9 member over a non-member and what are those qualities and attributes.
Most of the time in all the locations I have lived in, I can id the men who are doing community service in the African American community particularly especially when they wear their d9 greek paraphrenalia.
Most of the time, folks in the African American community, especially African American women find that extremely attractive simply because to us it looks like African American men are making things happen in the community rather than believing all the negative statistics we all see on television. It is nice to see that often.
We rarely see other greek organizations effectively doing anything in the African American community with their greek paraphrenalia on that we can readily identify with. Although I cannot speak for every African American, I can only speak to my observations from my life experiences...
So that is what I mean about effective differences. Your organization may be working extremely hard to make that effective difference. But what is your target population perception? I don't need to know that answer...
But where I live, if you EFF it up once, they will NEVER give you a second chance again. There is a complete lack of trust with any organization that comes in the African American community that the "public" perceives as indifferent. The d9 just are not seen that way, often... Although I think that is changing for the worse--the young people do not think highly of the d9 although if it hadn't been for us, we still be jacked up with legalized Jim Crow...