These 'nalia rules are relatively recent, and at least in my org are not official. Back in the day, there were no such rules and folx 'nalia'd down. Now you seem pressed if you do that. I say if it is a private function like a chapter retreat, etc, or you are a neo--do your thing. Otherwise, folx will grow out it in their own time. But to jump someone, or assume they are "paper"--
