I guess you're right, it's just an old tradition we have, and it's fine, but what qualifies as "hazing" is kind of ridiculous to me... Somethings I am for, but most of it I am clearly not. I'm sure i'll be saying something differen't after Men of Principle but that's to be decided. I know about it... but I was not there in San Diego, although I do know several that did go. If you can remember any ZH brother who was there it would probably be Robert Umstatder, he works for General now, he would be a good guy to contact if you ever had any questions or had to talk to General about something or maybe just to say hi.
rumstadter@wooglin.com thanks for your input. As of now, big bro night is dry and we must decide anew a new program/night, and I am looking for suggestions of possible activities. Thanks again-