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Old 03-31-2006, 02:11 PM
Rudey Rudey is offline
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Re: Re: I dunno folks...

I'm here because my ancestors were legal. If yours weren't, that's your burden.

Given that oceans separate us from most other countries, the illegals from Mexico are much more abundant, hence the focus. Either way, nobody said that there would be no enforcement against non-Hispanic illegals. I don't know where that came from.

And we pump billions into anti-drug programs. I would say that we try to enforce it.

So really, is it an anti-hispanic movement? Especially given the hispanic movement's voting power.

Now I think that the bill allowing for the conversion of millions of illegals into legals is a good compromise. On top of that I read a great idea: Give free citizenship to any illegal that turns in a boss that employs illegals.

-Rudey

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Originally posted by epchick
No they haven't passed the HR 4437, and I dont think they are---they have a few other bills being discussed in the senate.

But anyways, I totally agree with AKA_Monet. The fact that everyone is focusing on the Hispanic population as being the cause of all the problems is wrong. Like miss AKA_Monet said, what about all the other ethnicities that are here illegally? Illegal is illegal is not a good reason to support (or even protest) this bill. There is so many illegal things happening in this country, corrupt politics, drugs, etc. Why focus on the undocumented immigrants. All they want is to be here trying to make life better for their children. If it wasn't for all our ILLEGAL ancestors, we wouldn't be in this country, and America wouldn't exist as the country it is today (which is both a good and a bad thing).

Undocumented immigrants take the lowly jobs, the jobs with not a lot of benefits (and trust me, even if the jobs had benefits the undocumented immigrants dont get it). They rarely use social services for fear of getting caught and being deported. I don't understand the problem with these people becoming legal. So 11+ million people would become legal, is that so wrong? Do you hate the hispanic/latino (and lets just say MEXICAN) population so much that you rather have them all put in jail than just to become a citizen of the country that they want to be a part of?

Do you even know how proud these immigrants are that they are in America!?! The fact that I might have to show documentation at my CHURCH to prove that i'm an American citizen is crazy.

And why are they doing this? Because they don't want any further terrorist attacks. How many times have you heard of a MEXICAN/Puerto Rican/Cuban/etc committing terror attacks? ZERO. Why? Because unlike others, we have pride for the country that our families struggled for. There are so many undocumented immigrants fighting in Iraq that its unreal. My grandfather fought in WWII as an illegal immigrant because he was told he could gain citizenship for him and his family. My mom, her siblings, and all the children were born here in the United States, so we didn't have to struggle like our grandparents (and their siblings) did. So the fact that my country wants to keep out any relatives that I might have is crazy.

Add to the fact that, with HR 4437, I'd get put in jail for 1-20 years for even TALKING to an undocumented immigrant. So if I found out a family member was here in the United States (whether i knew they were undocumented or not) and I wanted to meet them to say "hi" or have lunch with them, I could potentially be locked up for 20 years! How wrong is that?

If it was easy for the immigrants to get a Visa, passport, or anything like that, then they'd get it. But Mexico doesn't make it easy for anyone to get anything like that. We've been trying to get a dance teacher from Mexico over here for a week to teach a workshop. We were told that all she had to do was send a letter explaining the reason she was going and proof (from us here in the US) that what she was saying was true. But they still DENIED access to give her a visa, and to rub salt in that wound for her they granted access to her mother and sister to get a visa for the same reason. Its wrong!

I'm sorry that happened to your uncle kddani.
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