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Old 11-21-2001, 08:26 PM
Poplife Poplife is offline
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Ralph Boyd himself offered me a job in his office and you call my politics elementary? And you think my statements are funny? Hmm.

I am not a bleeding heart. I don't see any reason why ANYONE should be on public assistance for years at a time. I believe people should take initiative to make something of themselves. Allowing someone to literally make a living off of unemployment contradicts the idea of doing for self, which is what as a black man who feels he knows his stuff, should understand.

There is nothing wrong with having a helping hand (in the way your line brothers probably helped you). But to allow someone to totally depend on an outside source robs them of their self worth, self sufficiency, and initiative. That's basic psychology, not bigotry. Do I believe in public assistance? Yes, I do. However I feel that it should only be temporary for the reasons I stated above.

As far as the immigrant thing, where did you get all that? I was merely stating that it seems as though every other race is making the system work for them. I want Blacks to be advancing like the others. That's all. No more. It's done. I've spoken. I don't care about affirmative action. I didn't not need it to get into my private high school because you apply with numbers in place of a name (ethnic names tip you off), and they don't interview you unless you are a transfer. I certainly didn't need it to get into my HBCU. Maybe someone else used it, but I didn't, and therefore do not care who does. When my Arab friend got fired on Sept 14 I was the first one to pressure her to go the EEOC. I will testify on her behalf in the spring. An Asian woman helped me get me my new job. I am glad she has since been promoted. My bestfriend is half Puerto Rican and I love her and her people. I am glad to see them doing so well. Please stop adding things in to make a point because you're dead wrong. Politically I maybe be afro-centric, but in everyday life I thoroughly enjoy various cultures and the people that are linked to them. I take great pride in knowing a lot about them and will continue to travel and expand my knowledge of others who are not like me.

I really don't care why people voted for Bush. He's in there for four years and will probably go for eight, so the best I can do is work with the system I've got. Sometimes, it's not about how or why someone got where they are. It's about finding a way to make them work for you. So Bush he is prioritizing his own company? Any president would do the same. Shoot, any person in power would do the same for his or her company if they could. It's called being human. Life ain't fair.

You accuse me of playing a game. I'm not sure if it's the one that is making my life so good, but if it is I will play it 'till I die. I do for self first and other's next. I'm not ashamed to say so because it's that philosophy that keeps me from becoming dependent on a system that will never willingly cater to me.

You compare me to Rush Limbaugh because you are ignorant. You may be well informed by your standards, but my standard of being informed are much higher. For me, being truly informed means that you have analyzed everything with an unbiased eye. This includes the idea's and systems that we are conditioned to be against from birth.

Three years ago I used to think just like you until my father (a member of the independent party) taught me that blacks that thought like you were the ones that are constantly being left behind without even noticing. When I looked at all the professional people in my life I saw that he was right. In fact I don't know one Black Millionaire (or wealthy black person) that thinks like you.

These same blacks that have essentially been disowned by the black community for their political affiliation are the same ones giving to millions NAACP and UNCF. The president of my school is a black republican, and I attend a major HBC. He raised 2 times the goal for funding last year, fought to get more black students in media internships stating that we needed to see more black faces, and openly encourages blacks to do for self. Yet, you say they turn on their own people and shut the door in their face. You only display your ignorance when you say things like that.

You wanted me to name some black republicans that have helped other's make money. I know quite a few, but you have to realize that even if I named them, it wouldn't mean much to you because only two or three are very public figures. There are many everyday black people that happen to be republicans and are very pro-black. Believing that all black Repub.'s are like Alan Keys shows how little exposure you have and how hijacked YOUR mind is. You can't even see that the democrats don't want you in their party. They cater to you to get votes, not because they have your best interest at heart. They promise everything and deliver nothing because that's what they think we deserve. When we are no longer the biggest (ahem, LEGAL) minority, they will drop us and sing and dance for whomever is next in line.

You obviously get much of your information from the democratically dominated media, which is typical for black people. I get my information from MEETING, OBSERVING, and having MEANINGFUL CONVERSATIONS with these people. In some cases I am related to them.

My aunt made partner in her million dollar law firm up in NYC 3 years ago. My uncle (her husband) owns a successful BMW dealership in New Jersey. They fight everyday to get more black interns. They are republicans. Another uncle owns a hotel and an apartment complex in Nevada and is an optometrist (how the hell he does that is beyond me). All his managers are black and he once held out on partnering with another optometrist until he could find another black person to share his name and his office space. He is a republican. My dad and mom's good friend is now the VP for the EC division of Verizon. Guess who he is hiring a lot of. Guess what political affiliation he has.

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Look up the word "obfuscation" and you will realize that the Reps have hijacked yours and other working class Reps emotions and used them to line their pockets.
*lol* First of all, what makes you think I'm from a working class family? Second of all how do you know I'm not one of the people who's daddy is having his pockets lined? Assumptions are not becoming.

Once again, please remember EVERY black person is NOT like you socially, politically, or financially. Not every black person thinks like you, nor should they. You can down my defense of the few Republican politics I like all you want, but financially they have helped me and I'm not talking about your silly little $300 dollars. Like I said, you can make people work for you if you can get to their strings.

And FYI, I'm not a republican. I only vote republican when it comes to personal assets and government minimizing. Other than that I am all over the board. I guess me being informed threw you off. That can happen when you have blinders on.





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Originally posted by DoggyStyle82
POPLIFE

You are too funny, and your vision of politics is very elementary. Yes, money rules politics, plain and simple, but the game is what you do not recognize. What Black Republican do you know that has created wealth for anybody else. Once they have one of their white benefactors help them out of the barrel, they turn around and close the lid. Your post was exactly about what Reps are about : SELF. I'm going to get mine, hook or crook, make sure I keep it, keep others from the opportunity (Hispanics, Koreans, immigrants) and save affirmative action for only my kind (the power of inheritance). Non-rich people don't work hard, immigrants have no right to the American dream? You sound like Rush Limbaugh talking about welfare queens and such. Yeah Reps are about the bucks, but Bush won because poor and middle class people voted for him, not just the rich 10% who run things. Why, because Reps make the white man feel threatened by the exact things that you enumerated. Let me give you a real political reality check.

This war is not about Bin Laden. He provides a good cover. It is about opening up central asia for an oil pipeline that has to go from Russia thru Afghanistan. Why do you think Russia is so eager to partner with the U.S in ousting the Taliban?

What man and what company benefitted the most from Bush Sr's war with Iraq? Why, our very own V.P Dick Cheney. The Enron company spent millions to get Bush Jr. elected. Guess which company got the biggest tax break due to 9/11?

When the stock market crashed after 9/11, Bush changed the stock market rules to allow private stockholders to purchase larger shares than allowed under SEC rules. Of course they bought stock dirt cheap when the market reopened and viola', one month later when the market stabilized, the million shares they bought at $2 are now worth $40 a share.

Poplife, who has benefitted here? Yeah, we got our $300 tax rebate, yeah, they're rolling back affirmative action, yeah, they will dismantle welfare and cater to your hot buttons, but who is getting over like a fat rat, while you play the blame game that Rush Limbaugh has popularized. Look up the word "obfuscation" and you will realize that the Reps have hijacked yours and other working class Reps emotions and used them to line their pockets.

One last thing, the reason you have not seen Dick Cheney is because he's behind the scenes plotting the strategy that gets their Carlyle Group friends more money (real money).

Last edited by Poplife; 11-22-2001 at 11:44 AM.
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