[Kevin]

I don't think anyone's suggesting something like that KR -- and that you can even come up with that stuff is a little scary.

Most of the hazing that I've seen (although, my chapter never engaged in a bit of it) was people being yelled at, forced calisthenics, difficult tasks to do in a short amount of time.

Heck, some of the stuff I've heard about has actually sounded pretty cool. On the other hand, I've heard of some pretty dangerous (stupid) things that some chapters have engaged in.

I'm sure most of y'all are pretty familiar with your respective organizations' policies on hazing. Do you think they go too far? I mean, I can see trading swats, bows and toes, etc. as unacceptable, but line ups and some tasks that would pass for hazing under most of our policies get me to question them a little bit. How far do they need to go?