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Originally posted by madmax
Wrong douchbag. I am comparing legal vs illegal not skilled vs unskilled.
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I meant when you cracked on Rudey, killer - chill the fuck out.
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Originally posted by madmax
Since you brought it up, there is plenty of skilled labor in foreign countries. The Dept of Labor estimates millions of white collar jobs will be offshored in the next decade. We are talking about jobs in banking, law, engineering, accounting, information technology and architecture.
IBM can hire a MIT grads living in China for about a quarter of what they pay employees living in the US.
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What's your point? They can also hire MIT grads living in Montana for less than those living in Boston or Manhattan - these jobs being moved offshore is a reasonable end result of a global market. In the end, consumers will decide with their wallets - would you prefer some other method?
How does this apply to illegal aliens, too? Really - I can see being against using illegal labor, but outsourcing is completely different.
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Originally posted by madmax
What do you do for a living? Since you are in favor of a free market, should your customers/employer be able to hire illegal aliens who can do your job for a fraction of what they are paying you? If your answer is "no" then go back to the first sentence.
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I work in fairly specialized consulting, and that consulting is directly specialized to the US, so I may not be the best example.
What you're asking for is different, though - whether or not they
should be allowed is a matter of law.
What I'm saying is that the solutions for hiring illegal labor (pay more!!1) are generally inbred with the reason WHY people are using illegal labor to start. If you want to enforce labor laws, go nuts - but why blame companies for using 'cheap' unskilled/partially skilled labor, when others aren't taking those positions (esp when gov't regs have been temporarily repealed)?
If my company can hire someone cheaper to do my job at an equivalent level, it would be suicide to keep me unless I provide something tangible to justify my extra cost - unless you think charity is a reasonable reason to be in business?