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Originally posted by Rudey
Monet,
I just reject the argument of "it's my body and I can do whatever I want, whenever I want to it".
The fact is that it's not just your body that is effected.
Many people that are OK with abortions are not OK with late-term abortions, for the reason that it's not just the mother's body anymore.
Heck even if it was your body, laws regulate what you can do to it. We stop people from commiting suicide, ban drugs, and regulate the tattoo industry.
Also I find it interesting that a lot of women refer to someone getting an abortion as a mother while rejecting the notion that what they carry is a baby and a child. At the very least, it is a potential for life and at some point society deems it to be life itself.
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I dunno Rudey? We actually jail people who snort crack and put folks into rehab if they do cocaine...
It is who and what that's getting the abortions that makes it a political issue aside from the fact that it has now become a religious issue.
It would be nice to know the true history of the issue if Roe vs. Wade does actually get overturned.
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Originally posted by Rudey
There are other circumstances that you bring up but I don't like the "Killing two birds with one stone" approach. If there are women getting raped, more of an effort should be put into stopping that. If there are women's live being in danger through a birth, then more money should be put into research to prevent that. And if there are 12 year olds getting knocked up, someone needs to stop that from happening period. Abortion shouldn't be used as the stone that solves all these problems as well as ending an unwanted pregnancy.
Also, many women who are not in poverty, never been raped, nor participated in incest, bring those issues up as an emotional ploy. If we were to ask them "OK would you be willing to allow abortions for women who suffered that legal and for yourself illegal, would you accept?", I doubt they would accept. This is akin to the whole "They're killing women and children" argument to tug at someone's heart strings.
-Rudey
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One those instances, I agree with you. We actually should address reasons why women are getting impregnated by rapists or knocked up 12 year olds. And studies have been done as to why these things are happening. A lot has stopped over the years because of HIV/AIDS.
But we have another generation of teens that has never heard of a life without anti-viral AIDS drugs and what that actually does to a child without AIDS treatment... Which means we have stopped some level of "condom promotion" in schools or what it really means to have sex with somebody.
So I dunno? We might see a spike in kids to offset the baby boomers that are all hitting 60. And if our troops actually do return home and decide to get busy...
What we won't anticipate is the number of female veterans that have encountered combat, then ask them to "sanely" raise a child without benefits, if we cut those monetary needs required...
What does this havta do with abortion? Probably nothing.
But after this discussion on Nightline with this Dr. Harrison [sp?] in I think Arkansas or Mississippi, he was blunt... He said abortion is birth control, albeit a poor choice in birth control, but a very real option. And he's done 9 abortions on one woman...
Which to me makes the issue that most women are probably "sport effing" and go "oops" and just are not thinking who they are doing it with or care as to why. Most of women are poor or have low wage jobs that see this guy. And he said he'd rather see professionals do abortions than going back to the days of "back alleys"...
How do we really legislate morality? Folks just like fcuk... And we've been doing it and doing it for a very long time... Obviously, that carnal desire will not die anytime soon... So, how do we really stop folks from getting busy so that young women don't have a need for abortion?
That is my question.