[PM_Mama00]

I'm sorry if it seemed I was attacking the national org in anyway, I know you are awesome and the girls in "theta" were super excited to have the opportunity to become part of that. I didn't intend to offend anyone; I just thought that the other perspective had a right to be heard. I appreciate the feedback from everyone, but if you aren't familiar with Penn State's Greek Life you wouldn't understand about the things they are missing out on... being a college town isolated from basically anything else has keep us behind in the times, so to speak. And according to our VP of Standards all our nationals are aware that we do not run like many other school systems. We don't have the same access to third party vendors and we haven't yet gone to that format of events. I don't want this to get catty and you may choose to believe whatever you like, but I am only sharing what my best friend is experiencing. Since it is not my experience I do not know how they made their decisions or what options they were given. But as an active sister in her chapter this is what my friend is sharing. We know that fraternities that choose to not associate with a name are not worth the time of day, but it is still a real and very uncomfortable/disappointing position to be put in. AND that isn't an attack on the chapter it is a truth. Something I'm sure you would be hurt by if put in the same situation. There is NO need for the judgment and "boohoo" comments. I'm sure if you were in a difficult situation you would like some empathy shown. Let me reiterate, my initial post was to give this thread a better understanding of the actual situation and feelings felt by the girls who are active at Penn State. None of the "theta" girls felt comfortable posting here and now I understand why. I wish everyone the best and from now on I will let you assume whatever you would like.

“If I asked for a cup of coffee, someone would search for the double meaning.” -Mae West

If those girls don't like it, then they can leave and go through recruitment again. Phi Mu doesn't need girls like that. Many of us don't like our national's rules but we love being Phi Mus so we find fun elsewhere.

As a Phi Mu I'm said to say this. I have no respect for the "sisters" who feel like this. We all have a choice to stay or leave our organizations if we don't like what's going on. It's one thing to not like it, and it's another to make the best out of a great opportunity that they've been given. My boohoo comment stands. I have no sympathy or empathy for them. Yeah it sucks but get over it. Phi Mu is a sisterhood. While the parties and socials are a good time and being liked is nice and all, LOVE HONOR TRUTH is #1 when it comes to being a Phi Mu. And if they still don't understand that, tell them to attend a leadership conference or somewhere they can hear our awesome national president, Kathy Williams, speak. They will realize then and there how damn proud and what an honor and what the true meaning of being a Phi Mu is. I actually kinda feeling like mentioning this at the next alumni association event, being that a few of our national officers might be there since they live in the area, just as a conversation piece. Thanks for the info! I'm glad I quoted this, just in case it needs to be printed out. Then again, it could just be one or two of these girls that feel this way and you are making it sound like all of the girls agree. This is the internet and all, but you should DEFINITELY not be speaking for these girls or mentioning their feelings on a message board that I'm sure national officers could frequent. So please stop while you're ahead.

And I don't understand how your VP Standards can say that all of your nationals know about how your campus is run and whatever. Did she hear this from the others chapters on campus? Did she hear this from those nationals? Because I would HIGHLY doubt that any national would allow there to be wet events because.... IT'S AN NPC RULE. As in the National of NPC. Your VP Standards should get a green book and NPC bylaws and constitution and study. That's not doggin your VP... I'm just going on what you've said.